Entrevista a Tomás Henriques / Interview with Tomás Henriques
2004/Jun/28
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Development as a Composer
My development as a composer is quite unknown to the majority of my
composer colleagues and other people.
I come from practical music making. The change to composition was a choice I made between 18 and
20 years of age. My whole
education was connected to practical music making, in chamber groups and
orchestras. Only when I went to
the Conservatory, aged 14, did I come into contact with composition, and become
interested in the way in which music is written and created.
There was not really a composer who influences me. In my case, it was more thinking about
how one wrote music and which possibilities of writing there were, and which
new languages one could create.
Obviously, I began to listen to a great deal of music by contemporary
composers. Equally important was
my contact with Peixinho, with whom I discovered much new music, as well as
Emmanuel Nunes, in his famous seminars, in which I came to know other people
who are now in the mainstream of Portuguese music.
Nevertheless, I consider my education at the National Conservatory of
Lisbon to have been important.
Later, in 1984-85, my participation in the electro-acoustic courses in
Viana do Castelo allowed me to meet Teruggi, which led me to go to Paris to
study this kind of music for some months.
This connection to electro-acoustic music became quite strong, since I
could link it to something that I found quite fascinating – the use of information
technology and new technology in composition. Since then, my musical output has followed a double path,
including not only new technologies, but completely acoustic pieces.
Compositional Approaches and Processes:
Instrumental Music versus Electro-acoustic Music.
I make no clear distinction between my electro-acoustic music and my
instrumental music. I think
there’s a connection between them in terms of the kind of colour and
sound-worlds I create. For me,
electro-acoustic music – and the technologies that allow me to work with
sources other than instrumental sources – is simply another way of expressing
that which gives me most pleasure, or that which I am interested in expressing
as a composer. So there is a
parallel between the musical approaches in these two fields. My liking for harmonic refinement, for
example, I think is also reflected in my electronic music. the integration of the element of
surprise, or contrast, these are all denominators that may be found in both my
instrumental and my electronic music.
All the work I did with the GRM only affected me as far as the freedom
of choice of materials and the freedom of the potential of these materials was
concerned. I was always very
careful, when working with the electronic part, always to have an ordered
scheme of thinking.
I believe in a line of thought that demands – whether in terms of
electro-acoustic music of any other – structured thinking in relation to what
one may actually modulate, what may be got round, modified and distorted, but
it must be thinking that unifies and gives a direction to the composition, in
which one may feel, formally speaking, a structure and an architecture that
support the music. otherwise, we
enter into the nebulous realm of intuition – which I think already has a pretty
strong artistic expression in the 1960s and 70s, but which doesn’t make much
sense now. Therefore, my
electronic music and my acoustic music share this concern: to follow defined
structural patterns, which I work, refine, modify and recreate.
Sometimes there is a certain appropriation of the kinds of specific
studio techniques in the field of instrumental writing. All the work it is possible to do with
electro-acoustic music, such as, for example, layering, in extending and
compressing material, distorting it during the course of time and frequency,
obviously allows thinking and reflection on these processes. One may extrapolate this to the
instrumental area and vice-versa.
In other words, the thinking and approaches of acoustic music – such as
that of exploring sound masses by means of canonic processes – may be related
to layering. There’s a real
feedback that influences these two aspects of my work.
Above all – concerning electro-acoustic music – timbral thinking takes
on, in my opinion, a great independence, from which I diverge. In some works, such as Time
Warp and even in Trois
Rêves, which was written more recently,
sound masses with harmonic characteristics are heard. One may say that at a given moment a perfect major chord is
sounded, or a perfect minor chord, but it is used in a dysfunctional way in
terms of tonal context. Of course,
in electro-acoustic music this would make no sense, though there exists,
obviously, a separation between timbral richness – which evolves in a much more
discreet way, more measured, more refined in relation to time – and the
harmonic option – which make it more uniform and stable. I am speaking of these two works
because one may really hear, from time to time, sound masses that define
perfect major or minor chords, which have no other effect than allowing a
stability of consonance, psycho-acoustically speaking.
In electro-acoustic music, there’s the problem of consonance and
dissonance - the problem is a bit different from instrumental music. because
the possibilities are much greater.
In any case, what we hear are games between sound masses more or less
consonant or dissonant. For me,
what’s really at stake in all the pieces, whether acoustic or electro-acoustic,
is the balance between consonance and dissonance. What gives them their form is the way in which this is
delineated over the course of time.
Compositional Methods:
The problem of form, consonance and dissonance.
When I speak of the notion of consonance and the stability of a sound
mass, I do it from a physical, acoustic standpoint – where there is a
separation, or non-coincidence, in the great sound cake of harmonics, in which
certain relationships of whole numbers are established, or more complex
relationships in which interferences are created – and from the psychic standpoint
of the perception of that same stability.
Obviously, when one speaks of non-harmonic consonance, there are many
studies already extant today on the non-harmonic nature of even a fundamental
interval, such as the octave.
Moreover, in more timbrally complex sounds, there are octaves which are
tuned even when not in an exact two-to-one proportion. There’s quite an interesting field of
work in this respect. But, returning
to the original idea, I’m talking about a consonance that gives me stability,
whether physically or psychically.
In musical terms, I can obtain an energetic reduction in terms of the
way I direct the musical material.
For me, it’s essential to work with contrasts, even though they be
between consonances – it’s much more difficult to work only with consonances
than with consonances and dissonances together.
It’s easier for a composer to claim that he is a neo-tonal or
neo-romantic composer in the United States than in Europe. In fact, I worked with some people who
practice the toughest kind of serialism there is in the United States, such as
Charles Warren, with whom I learned a great deal. I think he was the person who influenced me most in terms of
writing and in terms of an big explosion of creativity, which was diametrically
opposed to the kind of aesthetic and to the kinds of pieces I was used to
hearing – especially the works of the Second Viennese School and the composers
who followed the development of that school, notably Pierre Boulez. People such as Warren had a very
refined métier of vivacity and
expressiveness that really surprised me, and made me understand that there was
light at the end of the tunnel.
They made me understand composing music using serial methods was
perfectly viable and a worthwhile option.
In the United States there are various anti-Warren currents, and even
more anti-Babbit currents (these are the two fundamentalist serialists), but I
think that my approach with regard to my inserting tonal materials is, in any
case, merely occasional. I
remember a work I wrote recently, in 2002, Time Warp, in which there is a chord of D flat major, which is
fundamental during the whole piece.
In any case, it is a choice.
It has to do with the insertion of an element of stability in terms of
sound energy. I don’t identify
myself at all with tonal music, or with the neo-tonalists. As an aesthetic choice I think that
tonal music had its place in history.
Even the minimalists, by bringing back tonal harmonies, did so in a very
different way, in that there is no functionality, because all the material is
expanded during the course of time and thus one loses the idea of harmonic
progression. What I do
identify with is a style of writing based and founded on a structured thinking
that, almost always, has to do with the creation of groups of notes in relation
to which is affected a group of modifications, many of them very simple. I have come to the conclusion that the
simpler the options, in terms of modification, the more effective the sound
result. At times, a simple
inversion of the material is much more interesting musically, or sonically,
that a multiplication by a factor of 2.5 – this is done with the computer, with
which one may algorithmically generate results in numerical terms when one is
dealing with series and notes.
From time to time, I have used some mathematical processes, but I come
to the conclusion that I obtain better results if I sit at a table and do it by
hand. This doesn’t mean that one
may not arrive at very interesting things algorithmically, but I think there’s
still a great deal of space for creativity in the simpler things, obviously
subordinated to structural thinking.
This is essential. I think
that what is common to all my works is this structured element. I think there’s a formal solidity,
though one cannot hear all concrete formal aspects associated with the
material.
Information technology in the creative process
I do a great deal of experimental work in terms of trying to generate
material with algorithmic processes, especially now with the MAX/MSP – with
which it is easier to carry it out, instead of creating things from
nothing. Though the final result
leads me to reflect afterwards on what I am hearing, sometimes I end up working
with a set of materials and choosing to write in a much more “human” way,
approaching the material in a simpler fashion, more direct and more controlled
by me. All this, as I said a while
ago, while not neglecting, obviously, the potential of the computer.
Sibila I, Sibila II, Frames, Sudeste and Time Warp
Sibila I is a piece
for piano and electronic sound.
It’s a work in which the electronic part was conceived from the
beginning as being extremely instrumental, and in which I try to extract the
components of the frequency defined on the basis of the electronic sound. That is, there exist many electronic
sounds of abstract origin, or of concrete origin, as well as of electronic
origin. At first, when we hear these
sounds, we cannot identify them or place them within a context of frequencies
and define a D or an A sharp. They
are electronic sounds that, in an abstract way, I juxtapose with the piano’s
material, inserted on the basis of their frequency characteristics. Thus, sound masses are created which
contrast with, superimpose themselves, and dialogue with their frequency
components. It’s a piece from the
beginning of the 1990s, in which the piano part has as basis a group of twelve
chords, which serve as a kind of harmonic cantus
firmus that goes through the whole
work. In fact, the work is a set
of variations on this harmonic field.
Frames is another piece that uses the same kind of thinking, in
which the relationships of the notes, whether vertical or horizontal, are taken
from the harmonic field, and all the material is generated from the variation
and increase in complexity of the relations already extant, from the beginning,
in this harmonic field.
Sibila I is an important piece in that it is based on parameters of
numerical origin – numerical relationships and ratios – that place in juxtaposition
the instrumental structural part, in quite a direct way. The electronic part is simple, with
synthesized sounds, others not recorded, selected, sequenced and organized in a
relationship of similarity and difference between the notes and the electronic
sound, in the parameter of frequencies.
Sibila II is basically Sibila I without the electronic part.
This is because it was conceived from the beginning do that the piano
part could stand alone as a solo work, with which the electronic part blends. It’s obviously the electronic part that
gives a completely different dimension to the piece, but, with small
modifications, the part for piano solo can be played by the pianist and stand
by itself, on the basis of the music written only for the instrumental
part. It’s a more mobile Sibila, which can be taken around and more easily played without
the electronic part.
I’d also like to mention Sudeste, from 1992, for five percussionists – two marimbas, two vibraphones
and a temple-block – that takes as its original idea work with the parameter of
duration. Here, rhythm is quite an
important element, in which the concepts of pulsation and the diversion of
pulsation, on the one hand, and the concept of rhythmic motives – which
contrast, clash and fit together – on the other, provide the most important
substance of the work. As far as
pitch organization is concerned, the work is very much grounded in the concept
of canon. Canons that occur by
temporal stretching, that are not linear, but which are composed by the
processes of retrograde and inversion and which during the course of the piece
compact and expand. The piece goes
forward essentially on account of these canons, and of the multiplication of
the material, in which the melodic line later explodes and is used in the other
instruments.
As for electronic music, I could talk about Time Warp, for example. Time
Warp is a work that, as I mentioned
before, uses a sound mass – a kind of harmonic pedal based on a perfect major
chord. It’s a work that starts
from material generated, synthesized, sequenced and created with a programme
that I wrote in 1993, PANGEA. This is a programme for
the spatialization and editing of sound, which allows one to break up a sound
into a very large group of small fragments and re-orientate them, not only in
time, but also in space – in that each fragment may be placed in any channel of
acoustic space. A section of this
piece was made with this programme.
There are various sound objects which are introduced into the composition,
notably a small excerpt of a Gregorian chant, which I tried to insert in order
to create a certain stability and a certain timelessness. Since I use, in musical terms, a pedal
– which is the perfect major chord – that gives this feeling of stability, I
inserted this chant also in order to help me obtain this feeling. As far as the temporal dimension is
concerned, I tried to make this quite extensive, so that one could get lost in
the temporal sense. So it is a
work that has several components, but which I think blends things timbrally,
harmonically and formally, though I consider the piece to be a simple one. It isn’t complex, in the way that I
often hear, or as we usually hear in festivals in which many things happen
simultaneously. I have a tendency
to write in a simple fashion, so that it is formally easier, not to follow,
exactly, but stable in terms of its use over the course of time.
Sound editing software: Pangea and Real Move
Time Warp and Trois
Rêves, for example, are completely
different works. They were composed using software I developed recently – PANGEA and, more recently still, Real Move.
I have a love-hate relationship with programming. Hate in that, very often, I notice how
much time I’ve spent looking at the computer screen trying to do something with
programming, when I could have achieved much more if I’d been writing
music. It would be more immediate,
and I would perhaps achieve different results. In any event, my work with and liking for mathematics and
the exact sciences – this was really what I studied at school and also at
university, where for a time I studied engineering – has meant that I have
worked particularly on the creation of programmes for sound
spatialization. Pangea was developed while I was studying in the United States.
More recently, Real Move is software that allows the spatialization of sound in real time. Obviously, after programmes as
important and well-written as Spat, it is difficult to create different and useful things, but in any
case, Real Move is a programme that allows the user to
work with the computer mouse and the cursor on the monitor, to determine the
trajectories of the sound. With
the loudspeakers on the screen one can define the trajectory of the sound being
heard in real time, whether it be a live sound or a recording played in real
time.
I work with Real Move in such a way that I can control it with a MIDI glove. In
a way, it is much more interesting for a user to be able to use two MIDI gloves
and work at the same time live with two sound sources, and doing the sound
spatialization. Visually speaking,
it’s much more interesting, and one can even use this component in dramatic
terms on stage, by means of the gestures of control of the sound sources.
What is new in this programme?
It allows the distribution of the panorama to be done not as it is done
traditionally – in groups of two columns, in stereo, as is the paradigm of
spatialization – but also in quadrophony, or octophony with sixteen channels,
and the sound can be on all channels at the same time. The gestural element allows the
generation of the quantity of amplitude that is transmitted through all the
channels. Obviously, there is still
much experimentation I must do in order to see if it really works in musical
terms. On paper, in mathematical
terms, it already works. In
musical terms, it’s obviously a new stage that I’m going to have to work on. Another important thing with regard to Real
Move is the fact that each channel may
be connected directly to a digital processor, so that it is thereby possible to
have the same sound on four or eight channels, and each one of these channels
has a completely different processing.
I can thus have a uniform sound ambience – because it’s the same sound
that’s in the acoustic space – but the fact that each channel has a different
processing creates timbral differentiations which, in compositional terms, may
be musically interesting.
When a sound is localized in relation to a centre of coordinates, a
vector is defined. Moreover, each
column is also used as a centre of coordinates so that vectors are created for each column for the
localization of the sound. Only
afterwards, using mathematical processes, is the relative weight of the
proximity of each column calculated, and this is done after the computation of
the quantity. I don’t know exactly
how this will work out in sound and listening terms.
I’m reading more and more, and learning about how the brain perceives
sound, and am coming to the conclusion that space is a parameter extremely
difficult to work with, because the ear has a tendency to like extremely clear,
extremely well-defined sound images.
For example, with Pangea I can break a sound of five seconds in a thousand pieces and place
them at various points in space. What
is very difficult is to create a work in which this kind of technological
innovation may be used in a musically coherent and strong fashion. I’ve made many experiments, but I have
not yet written a work with Pangea, though I think that in terms of software it’s quite innovative. I’ve already introduced it in some
communications I’ve given internationally, and it was well received and is
thought highly of, because it effects the spatialization of sound in time, and
not in terms of frequency.
The problem is that this is a different kind of approach, in which
there must be an awareness, and an availability to create works of this kind,
and I haven’t had this very much.
Just now I’ve been writing much more music for acoustic instruments,
which has to do with the question of visibility in the field of contemporary
music in Portugal, in which it is quite easy to be labelled or forgotten. If you write electro-acoustic music,
you are labelled with the electro-acoustic music stamp, and are not then
invited to festivals and concerts of instrumental music. So I’m trying to alter the balance of
writing.